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June 29th, 2017
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A couple of words about basic astrology
Some time ago, NASA published an article telling us that astrology is a non-scientific garbage because the time that the Sun spends in line with the actual constellations named the same way as the zodiacal signs differs from the time that it is said to be in those signs astrologically. And that those times are different now that they were thousands of years ago when astrology first emerged. And that there are actually thirteen signs and not twelve. And that the Sun spends different amounts of time in front of different constellations. All that is correct, and yet this argument is about as valid as the Soviet propaganda one that said that there's no God because astronauts went "up there" and saw no God above the clouds. Of course, the vast majority of the popular "horoscopes" are total garbage, but this does not mean that astrology as such is as well. And the people at NASA simply did not bother to familiarize themselves with the basic principles of astrology.

So, here is a couple of words about those basic principles. Astrology deals with cycles and their interactions. The main cycle is in the Earth - Sun relationship, and thus is about the four seasons. Each season, like everything in the world, has three stages - being born and developing, being mature and maintained, being aging and eventually dissolved and gone. These stages correspond to the cardinal, fixed, and mutable astrological signs, respectively. Each season gets three signs - a cardinal, a fixed, and a mutable. Spring starts on the spring equinox, with the _astrological_ (not astronomical!) cardinal sign of Aries, goes through a fixed sign of Taurus, and then eventually dissolves (in preparation for the coming summer) during the mutable sign of Gemini. Then the summer starts on the summer solstice, etc.

Again, these astrological signs correspond to certain ranges in the Earth - Sun relative positions (and thus the seasons and the predominant flows of certain energies). Their correspondence to the particular constellations does not have to be exact. In the first approximation, one can say that the constellations on the sky could be drawn completely randomly, just for the convenience of following the process. Just like the dial of a clock could be arranged and decorated in any way, and the movement of the clock's arms does not _define_ or _cause_ time to go forward but rather provides a way of following the passage of time.

In reality, the change of the direction of the Earth's axis with respect to the constellations does matter in astrology, but this is a finer issue that is signified by saying that the Mankind is living in the Age of Pisces, the Age of Aquarius, etc. But that is a different story. The main annual solar cycle relates to the seasonal Earth - Sun relations and does NOT change from year to year.

Here is link to the the NASA article:
https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/starfinder2/en/ This entry was originally posted at http://whocares1970.dreamwidth.org/772350.html.

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From:tandem_bike
Date:June 29th, 2017 01:28 pm (UTC)
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i am open. i am. i am willing to believe that "we" simply don't know enough, and augurs were right in part, observing bird migrations and making proposals as to what to do or not do.

i am open.

BUT - a worldview - and by that i mean a system of principles pertaining to various spheres of life, and astrology is a generalized worldview, just like homeopathy is a worldview of medicine - is fully and unequivocally defined by its practitioners AND its users.

no matter what i think of homeopathy, of its principles and validity - i have met many sane, intelligent, educated and normal practitioners and users of homeopathy.

i am yet to meat ONE sane, intelligent, educated and normal practitioner and/or user of astrology.

you may be the first and only one.


everybody i know in life or here in LJ who are astrology connected - are either defective in the most simple sense ( stupid), or display evidence of advanced psychiatric disease.

Edited at 2017-06-29 01:31 pm (UTC)
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From:whocares1970
Date:June 29th, 2017 02:22 pm (UTC)
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>> you may be the first and only one. <<

Well, at least you are counting me as a sane one! :)

The truth is though that people who are really good at astrology are extremely rare. I mean, there are many of those who can give a psychological portrait of a person from their birth info. It is also relatively easy to predict the general atmosphere for a day, etc. However, forecasting events is an art that is mastered by very and very few.

On the other hand, astrology, like many other system, is a language. It is hard to predict actual events, but it can be used to describe what's going on and thus to help you make sense of the world.
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From:tandem_bike
Date:June 29th, 2017 02:58 pm (UTC)
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i am happy to accept that. just that ... when the acolytes are so.. 9>>>>>).

but you broke my stereotype completely. one is enough.
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From:whocares1970
Date:June 29th, 2017 03:20 pm (UTC)
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And so, I have a positive role in history! :)

I do agree though that most of the acolytes are such that they do not encourage trust for the field.
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